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Old 03-02-2008, 12:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't think my stock suspension would pass a "bounce test". Those are some of the more retarded vehicular laws I've ever read.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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thats werid. it stock lol
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Old 03-02-2008, 02:02 AM   #13 (permalink)
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yeah its stupid. out of the people who actual modify their cars i would say like 10% actually go to get recon. everyone else including myself its a waste of time.

plus half the cops who pull people over for recon dont really know the whole recon thing...like what you need recon for & what doenst require recon. like if a cop sees a dropped car or hears a car with a loud exhaust most likely they WILL pull that car over.

some of my friends who HAD recon got pulled over & the cop scraped their recon sticker off.

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Old 03-02-2008, 03:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow, they sure sound like d*cks! I just thought HI cops were extremely lazy.



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Old 03-02-2008, 02:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i would say its 50/50.
some cops are real jerks but others are super cool.
makes life easy if you have alot of friends who are cops you know.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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whats a recon? my friend went to jail cause the cop thought he was racing. which he wasnt it was some other guy. so they put him in jail on thursday and got out yesterday and had to pay $2000.00 to get him out of jail.
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I choose neither... A law passed here a while back which does not require us to have a front plate.
No front plates needed here as well ...Good luck with your license plate relocator thingys peeps
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Old 03-03-2008, 02:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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my friend went to jail cause the cop thought he was racing. which he wasnt it was some other guy.
Something similiar happened to me recently... just not jail.

It was like 1-2am and I needed to go grab something at WalMart. I got in the Supra and went about 1 block when I get pulled over. I did not turn off the car. The officer came up asking for my information and I asked them why I was being pulled over. They said they got a report that this car (Supra) was out street racing (at the illegals). I told them what I was doing and where I was going... they did not believe me, but thankfully I thought of something.

My car was sitting at home all day. I told the officer, look at my temperature gauge. The needle is still buried in the COLD section. If I was driving for a small amount of time, or especially racing the motor, it would be MUCH warmer.... at least midway to HOT.

He let me go....



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Old 03-03-2008, 12:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i figured someone would ask. idk of any other state that has it.

wells here in hawaii..to be more specific oahu. we have this thing called recon.
so for certain modifications you need a permit or you have to pay a fine.

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the recon fee is $15, exact change! no credit cards

M-F by APPOINTMENT ONLY

alignment --you need an alignment printout, dated within 30 days of recon appt. and must be within manufacturers' specs.

yes, they will test your tint (BE LEGAL 35% +/- 6% )
tint on windshield--illegal
SUVs, trucks, vans, can have as dark tint as they want rearward of the driver's and passenger's front side windows, as long as it is NOT opaque

affidavits for rims and exhaust no longer required

recon required for rim sized 1-1/2" over stock.

body kits are not a recon item
spoilers are not a recon item
no recon required for EXHAUST ONLY
battery must be secured
air intake must be secured
timing gears must be covered

the decal plates for safety check stickers and recon stickers are illegal if mounted on or attached to the license plate

no clear-corner lenses, blue lights, or license plate covers allowed

Do I need to get recon for a turbo/supercharger?
No. Whether it comes as a kit or you put it together yourself, you can legally put a turbo/supercharger on your car and DO NOT have to get recon. However if you have to get recon for one of the reasons below, just make a note of the turbo/supercharger.

Are engine swaps legal, and do I need to get recon for it?
That depends. Yes engine swaps are legal, but that does not necessessarily mean you have to get recon. If the engine you are swapping in has the same number of cylinders as the one it is replacing, recon is NOT required. It doesn't matter if the engine you are swapping in is turbocharged. For instance, you want to swap a SR20DET into your 240sx. This does not require recon. However, if you want to swap a RB26DETT into your 240sx, you WILL need recon.

Can I put on rims bigger than 1.5" compared with stock?
Yes, but you will have to get recon. You can go as big as you want to, but the wheels have to be able to turn and not rub the fenders or wheel well when turned.

Do I have to get recon for my headers/exhaust/intake?
No. These are not recon items. And even if you did, any intake/exhaust will likely pass as long as the exhaust isn't too loud (they don't have any DB meters down there, they just listen to it). If your car is fitted with a catalytic converter, you will still need a cat, but you can use an aftermarket high flow type and still not need recon.

Can body kits/panels/hoods be installed?
Yes, and you don't need recon. One caveat here though, if your fiberglass/carbon fiber hood does not have provisions for windshield washer nozzels and you don't put them in, you would not pass safety, let alone recon.

Are coilovers/lowering springs legal?
That depends. Any time you have suspension work done to your car, you will have to get recon. You will need to have an alignment done within 30 days prior to your recon inspection. Make sure you bring a copy of the alignment sheet with you. Your suspension must be able to be aligned within stock specifications. Your car will also be subjected to a "bounce test" to check for adequate suspension travel. They typically test this at a front corner by pushing down on the bumper. You need to have VISIBLE (not necessarily 2 inches) of suspension travel. If your springs are too stiff, you will likely not pass.

Are headlight/tail light swaps/conversions legal?
Yes, as long as it says DOT on them. Simply doing a headlight/tail light swap does not require you to get recon. If you modify the donor headlight, then it is no longer DOT legal. Aftermarket HID's are also legal, though you may need recon for this. They have a light meter to make sure it's not too bright.

Are clear corner lights legal?
No. The lights MUST have an orange reflector at the front corners and corresponding red reflectors at the rear. This is a FEDERAL LAW. Simply putting in an orange bulb DOES NOT make it legal. Most of these aftermarket lights do not have DOT on them, and therefore would not pass anyway. If you modify a DOT corner light by taking the orange reflector out, it is NO LONGER DOT legal.

Can I run nitrous?
No, and it can't be made legal by going through recon. If you did have to get recon for suspension mods, and they happened to find a nitrous line or bottle, you will fail.

Can I change my car from front wheel drive to rear wheel drive?
Yes, but you will need to go through recon as this will require modification of the vehicle's suspension. If you did a hack job with the conversion and the inspector deems your car unsafe, then you won't pass.

If there's a version of the car with a different drivetrain, can I use it?
Yes. If the car came from the factory with the option of a manual or automatic transmission, you can swap one for the other without getting recon. You could also do a 4 wheel drive conversion on your 2 wheel drive truck if there was a 4 wheel drive version of your truck from the factory, provided the parts bolt in without requiring custom fabrication. If custom suspension mounts need to be made, or you use aftermarket suspension components, then you need recon.

Are intake manifolds/cams, pistons, etc legal?
Yes, and you don't need recon. There's no smog testing in Hawaii, so you don't need an affadavit showing that the part is 50 state legal. But be aware that if it says "off road use only" on any of the parts, and the inspector sees it, you will likely not pass recon even if you were trying to get it for something else.

Do I need an affadavit for all of my modifications?
No. Affadavits are no longer required.

Is there a headlight/liscense plate height requirement?
Yes. Headlights must be at least 22" off the ground to the center of the headlight housings. You must have a front liscense plate which must be at least 12" off the ground.

Do I have to get a recon inspection every year?
No. It's a one time only thing UNLESS you mod your car again. If you do, then you need to get another inspection. If you return your car to stock again, you no longer need the recon sticker.

If a cop pulls me over saying I need to get recon even though I don't have any recon items on my car, what happens?
If you got pulled over for a non recon item, you can contest the ticket in court and you will win. Kevin says many of the cops don't have a good handle on the recon law themselves. Keep in mind though, if you already have recon and do another mod to your car that requires recon, then you need to get another recon inspection. If the cop nails you on something you just installed, then you're SOL.
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its really complicating.
& say you go to get recon because your car is dropped...after you get the recon you do something else to your car that also requires recon...you then have to go get it updated..if you dont your current permit is voided.

its really stupid but thats what we have to go through here.
Would I need a recons if I shipped my car over to Oahu?
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It seems if you register the car in Hawaii you would, I'm not sure how it works with military personel who maintain registration in another state.
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